RIAA geeft strijd tegen gehandicapte moeder op

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Gepubliceerd: Dinsdag 5 juni 2007

De RIAA heeft de zaak tegen een gehandicapte alleenstaande moeder opgegeven. De belangenorganisatie kon de zaak niet hard maken.

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DJVG op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 16:42

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Toch vreemd, waarom zou de RIAA haar dan uberhaupt aanklagen?

gCassy op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 17:12

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Bangmakerij is meestal de strategie van organisaties als de RIAA, ze weten zoiezo dat ze niet iedereen kunnen aanklagen, dus pikken ze er een aantal "kleine garnalen" uit.
Ze zouden zich beter concentreren door de piraterij op grote schaal aan te pakken.

jorisvd op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 17:11

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Omdat het een stelletje op geld beluste ratten zijn misschien?

Bob Schurkjens op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 17:14

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Waarom haalt Webwereld meermaals aan dat de vrouw gehandicapt is? Als dat relevant is dan zal in het artikel toch op zijn minst moeten worden aangegeven om wat voor handicap het gaat en in welke zin de handicap relevant is.

Xephire op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 17:59

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Mee eens. Als ze in een rolstoel zit heeft het niet veel invloed op het artikel. Indien ze doof zou zijn wel.

LordAaargh op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 22:31

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Misschien om aan te geven dat de RIAA echt de zwaksten in de samenleving aanpakken. Die lui hebben geen greintje fatsoen. Daarbij zijn ze zo kortzichtig want dit is wel erg negatieve publiciteit.

Bitch of Freedom op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 22:42

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dat weten ze toch niet als ze eraan beginnen. Wie het is.

LordAaargh op Woensdag 6 Juni 2007 08:51

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Tuurlijk weten ze dat wel. Je gaat toch niet zomaar iemand aanklagen zonder eerst alles uit te zoeken...

Bitch of Freedom op Donderdag 7 Juni 2007 22:00

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o ja. met een privedective eerst kijken wat voor vlees je in de kuip hebt. En gelden voor gehandicapten andere wetten?

Erik van Vliet op Woensdag 6 Juni 2007 14:02

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Gelukkig, en helaas voor de RIAA zijn gehandicapten zijn niet per definitie de zwaksten in de samenleving. :D

eerde op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 17:53

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Was dit niet die 'gehandicapte' vrouw die niet eens een PC heeft ?

Net als in Nl krijg je dit soort wantoestanden als je stukjes wetgeving 'verpacht' aan particuliere stichtingen. Wij hebben er daar ook een aantal van, een overblijfsel uit de oertijd toen Donderse Donnert nog Min. van Justitie was :(

Bitch of Freedom op Donderdag 7 Juni 2007 22:02

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auteursrechtinbreuken zijn schadezaken. En dat is tussen degene die schade lijdt en degene die de schade aanricht. Heeft niks met Donner te maken.

Mr. Right op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 19:50

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Nou wordt het duidelijk waarom die organisaties zoveel geld nodig hebben.

En wij allemaal maar dokken ;-)

razorblade op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 21:22

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Ik ben van mening dat we hier met een nieuwe specie te maken hebben ,een kruising tussen een hyena en een aasgier waarbij bijde dieren nog te min zijn bij dit soort in hun doen en laten.

Voorts zit er nog een beetje van een rat in die zowiezo velen malen schoner is dan dit soort
vieze gore aso's eerste klas die nog in staat zijn hun famillie op vreten en uit te kakken,om daarna nog eens te consumeren.

de nederlandse takt doet er niet onder voor !!!!!!!.

Dat men het gehandicapte gedeelte meerdere malen belicht is in deze dus nog correct ook want je moet toch wel een viespeuk wezen om zo iemand proberen te *******.

We hadden al de fammilie van een overleden persoon gehad die werd aangeklaagd ,
toen de vrouw zonder pc,
en nu de gehandicapte,

what's next ?? de zwerver onder brug twaalf ??

awmplaza op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 22:31

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Ik zie, ik zie... dat Nederland dezelfde soort hersenloze mongolen hun gang laat gaan: BREIN

Bitch of Freedom op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 22:43

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Nou zo'n 30.000 gevallen waar 'niets' mee aan de hand is.

LordAaargh op Dinsdag 5 Juni 2007 22:28

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Gaaaaaf! Aanpakken die fijne corporaties die maar denken dat ze elke willekeurige burger de stuipen op het lijf kunnen jagen. Zeker in amerika waarbij ze gelijk enorme bedragen schadevergoeding willen hebben. En die RIAA lui is sowieso pure mafia. Ze hebben geen enkel fatsoen.

Ik ben het persoonlijk ook stront zat dat bedrijven burgers maar van kastje naar de muur sturen en hun eigen fouten maar gewoon afschuiven naar burgers die dan maar eieren voor hun geld kiezen en toch maar betalen. Niemand zou dit soort shit nog moeten pikken...

"Ars Technica"... Geinige naam... *grin*

rogierbosch op Woensdag 6 Juni 2007 07:59

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In mindere telegraaf stijl:

Justice can sometimes be poetic: the Recording Industry Association of America (RIAA), which has sued 14,800 people for using peer-to-peer networks, is itself being sued.

An Oregon woman is using anti-gangster RICO laws to countersue the organisation which spends its time suing individual file sharers. She denies ever having downloaded or distributed music and accuses the organisation of trespass - by secretly snooping into her computer.

According to documents filed with the Oregon court Tanya Andersen, a 42-year old single mother, was accused of downloading gangster rap at 4.24am using the user name gotenkito. The document notes: "Ms Andersen does not like 'gangster rap' music, does not recognise the name 'gotenkito', is not awake at 4.24am and has never downloaded music."

Ms Andersen was told she could settle with the RIAA or face expensive legal action.

Count 8 of the document accuses the RIAA of breach of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organisation (RICO) laws. The document says: "The record companies directed its agents to unlawfully break into private computers and engage in extreme acts of unlawful coercion, extortion, fraud, and other criminal conduct. The record companies and their agents stood to financially benefit from these deceptive and unlawful acts."

The RIAA was sued under the same gangster laws last year. Unfortunately for the plaintiffs, RICO requires the explicit threat or use of physical violence.

rogierbosch op Woensdag 6 Juni 2007 08:01

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Een de aanklacht zelf

ATLANTIC V. ANDERSEN

This is the case peer-to-peer file sharers have been waiting for. Tanya Andersen, a 41 year old disabled single mother living in Oregon, has countersued the RIAA for Oregon RICO violations, fraud, invasion of privacy, abuse of process, electronic trespass, violation of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act, negligent misrepresentation, the tort of "outrage", and deceptive business practices.

Ms. Andersen's counterclaims demand a trial by jury.

Ms. Andersen made the following allegations, among others:


1. For a number of years, a group of large, multinational, multi-billion dollar record companies, including these plaintiffs, have been abusing the federal court judicial
system for the purpose of waging a public relations and public threat campaign targeting digital file sharing activities. As part of this campaign, these record companies retained MediaSentry to invade private home computers and collect personal information. Based on private information allegedly extracted from these personal home computers, the record companies have reportedly filed lawsuits against more than 13,500 anonymous “John Does.”
2. The anonymous “John Doe” lawsuits are filed for the sole purpose of information farming and specifically to harvest personal internet protocol addresses from internet service providers.

3. After an individual’s personal information is harvested, it is given to the record companies’ representatives and the anonymous “John Doe” information farming suits are then typically dismissed.

4. The record companies provide the personal information to Settlement Support Center, which engages in prohibited and deceptive debt collection activities and other illegal conduct to extract money from the people allegedly identified from the secret lawsuits. Most of the people subjected to these secret suits do not learn that they have been “sued” until demand is made for payment by the record companies’ lawyers or Settlement Support Center.....

5. Tanya Andersen is a 42-year-old single mother of an eight-year-old daughter living in Tualatin, Oregon. Ms. Andersen is disabled and has a limited income from Social Security.

6. Ms. Andersen has never downloaded or distributed music online. She has not infringed on any of plaintiffs’ alleged copyrighted interest.....

7. Ms. Andersen has, however, been the victim of the record companies’ public threat campaign. The threats started when the record companies falsely claimed that Ms. Andersen had been an “unnamed” defendant who was being sued in federal court in the District of Columbia. She was never named in that lawsuit and never received service of a summons and complaint.

8. Neither did Ms. Andersen receive any timely notice that the suit even existed. That anonymous suit was filed in mid-2004. Ms. Andersen first learned that she was being “sued” when she received a letter dated February 2, 2005, from the Los Angeles, California, law firm Mitchell Silverberg & Knupp, LLP. The LA firm falsely claimed that Ms. Andersen had downloaded music, infringed undisclosed copyrights and owed hundreds of thousands of dollars. Ms. Andersen was understandably shocked, fearful, and upset. ....

9. After receiving the February 2, 2005 letter, Ms. Andersen contacted the record companies’ “representative,” which turned out to be Settlement Support Center, LLC. This company was formed by the record companies for the sole purpose of coercing payments from people who had been identified as targets in the anonymous information farming suits. Settlement Support Center is a Washington State phone solicitation company which engages in debt collection activities across the country.

10. When Ms. Andersen contacted Settlement Support Center, she was advised that her personal home computer had been secretly entered by the record companies’ agents, MediaSentry.


11. Settlement Support Center also falsely claimed that Ms. Andersen had “been viewed” by MediaSentry downloading “gangster rap” music at 4:24 a.m. Settlement Support Center also falsely claimed that Ms. Andersen had used the login name “gotenkito@kazaa.com.” Ms. Andersen does not like “gangster rap,” does not recognize the name “gotenkito,” is not awake at 4:24 a.m. and has never downloaded music.

12. Settlement Support Center threatened that if Ms. Andersen did not immediately pay them, the record companies would bring an expensive and disruptive federal lawsuit using her actual name and they would get a judgment for hundreds of thousands of dollars.

13. Ms. Andersen explained to Settlement Support Center that she had never downloaded music, she had no interest in “gangster rap,” and that she had no idea who “gotenkito” was.

14. Ms. Andersen wrote Settlement Support Center and even asked it to inspect her computer to prove that the claims made against her were false.

15. An employee of Settlement Support Center admitted to Ms. Andersen that he believed that she had not downloaded any music. He explained, however, that Settlement Support Center and the record companies would not quit their debt collection activities because to do so would encourage other people to defend themselves against the record companies’ claims.

16. Instead of investigating, the record company plaintiffs filed suit this against Ms. Andersen. F. The Record Companies have no Proof of Infringement.

17. Despite making false representations to Ms. Andersen that they had evidence of infringement .... plaintiffs knew that they had no factual support for their claims.

18. No downloading or distribution activity was ever actually observed. None ever occurred. Regardless, the record companies actively continued their coercive and deceptive debt collection actions against her. Ms. Andersen was falsely, recklessly, shamefully, and publicly accused of illegal activities in which she was never involved.

Ms. Andersen further alleged:

20. Entering a person’s personal computer without their authorization to snoop around, steal information, or remove files is a violation of the common law prohibition against trespass to chattels.

21. The record company plaintiffs employed MediaSentry as their agent to break into Ms. Andersen’s personal computer (and those of tens of thousands of other people) to secretly spy on and steal information or remove files. MediaSentry did not have Ms. Andersen’s permission to inspect, copy, or remove private computer files. If MediaSentry accessed her private computer, it did so illegally and secretly. In fact, Ms. Andersen was unaware that the trespass occurred until well after she was anonymously sued.

22. According to the record companies, the agent, Settlement Support Center used the stolen private information allegedly removed from her home computer in their attempt to threaten and coerce Ms. Anderson into paying thousands of dollars. ....

Under the provisions of the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act (18 U.S.C. § 1030) it is illegal to break into another person’s private computer to spy, steal or remove private information, damage property, or cause other harm.

26. Ms. Andersen regularly used her personal computer to communicate with friends and family across the country and for interstate e-commerce. Ms. Andersen had password protection and security in place to protect her computer and personal files from access by others.

27. The record company plaintiffs employed MediaSentry as their agent to bypass Ms. Andersen’s computer security systems and break into her personal computer to secretly spy and steal or remove private information. MediaSentry did not have her permission to inspect, copy, or remove her private computer files. It gained access secretly and illegally.

28. According to the record companies’ agent, Settlement Support Center, used this stolen private information in their attempt to threaten and coerce Ms. Andersen into paying thousands of dollars. ....

31. According to the record companies, Ms. Andersen’s personal computer was invaded by MediaSentry after she was identified with a nine digit code (an Internet Protocol Address (“IPA”)) obtained from the anonymous information farming lawsuits. MediaSentry did not have permission to inspect Ms. Andersen’s private computer files. It gained access only by illegal acts of subterfuge.

32. The record companies’ agent has falsely represented that information obtained in this invasive and secret manner is proof of Ms. Andersen’s alleged downloading. Ms. Andersen never downloaded music but has been subjected to public derision and embarrassment associated with plaintiffs’ claims and public relations campaign.

33. The record companies have used this derogatory, harmful information to recklessly and shamefully publicly accuse Ms. Andersen of illegal activities without even taking the opportunity offered by Ms. Andersen to inspect her computer. .....

36. Despite knowing that infringing activity was not observed, the record companies used the threat of expensive and intrusive litigation as a tool to coerce Ms. Andersen to pay many thousands of dollars for an obligation she did not owe. The record companies pursued their collection activities and this lawsuit for the primary purpose of threatening Ms. Andersen (and many others) as part of its public relations campaign targeting electronic file sharing.

37. The record companies have falsely represented and pleaded that information obtained in this invasive and secret manner is proof of Ms. Andersen’s alleged downloading and distribution of copyrighted audio recordings. Ms. Andersen never downloaded music but has been subjected to public derision and embarrassment.....

40. The record companies knowingly represented materially false information to Ms. Andersen in an attempt to extort money from her.

41. For example, between February and March 2005, the record companies, through their collection agent Settlement Support Center, falsely claimed that they had proof that Ms. Andersen’s IPA had been “viewed” downloading and distributing over 1,000 audio files for which it sought to collect hundreds of thousands of dollars. This statement was materially false. Ms. Andersen never downloaded or distributed any audio files nor did the record companies or any of their agents ever observe any such activity associated with her personal home computer.....

49. Despite having never observed any downloading or distribution associated with Ms. Andersen’s personal home computer and despite refusing Ms. Andersen’s offer to allow an inspection of her own computer, the record companies wrongfully continued their improper debt collection activities against her.....

50. The record companies pursued debt collection activities for the inappropriate purpose of illegally threatening Ms. Andersen and many thousands of others. This tortious abuse was motivated by and was a central part of a public relations campaign targeting electronic file sharing.

51. An employee of Settlement Support Center admitted to Ms. Andersen that he believed that she had not downloaded any music. He explained that Settlement Support Center and the record companies would not quit the debt collection activity against her because to do so would encourage other people to defend themselves against the record companies’ claims.

52. The record companies were aware of Ms. Andersen’s disabilities and her serious health issues. Settlement Support Center knew that its conduct would cause extreme distress in Ms. Andersen. As a result of defendant’s conduct, Ms. Andersen suffered severe physical and emotional distress and health problems.

53. The record companies’ conduct resulted in damages, including harm to Ms. Andersen’s health and property in an amount to be specifically proven at trial......

55. Oregon’s Unlawful Trade Practices Act prohibits those in trade or commerce from engaging in unfair or deceptive practices in the course of business with consumers. ORS 646.605 et seq.

56. The record companies’ agent, Settlement Support Center, is a company doing business in Washington which was established to engage in debt collection activities in manystates, including Washington and Oregon.

57. Settlement Support Center acting as the record companies’ agent made false and deceptive statements to Ms. Andersen in an attempt to mislead, threaten, and coerce her into paying thousands of dollars.

58. Settlement Support Center acting as the record companies’ agent has made similar false and deceptive statements to many other residents of Washington and Oregon, and across the country. The public interest has been and continues to be directly impacted by plaintiffs’ deceptive practices.

59. The record companies’ conduct resulted in damages and harm to Ms. Andersen and her property in an amount to be specifically proven at trial. ....

61. The Oregon Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organization Act prohibits companies from engaging in organized racketeering or criminal activities. ORS 166.715 et seq.

62. As fully set forth above, the record companies hired MediaSentry to break into private computers to spy, view files, remove information, and copy images. The record companies received and transmitted the information and images to Settlement Support Center. As the record companies’ agent, Settlement Support Center then falsely claimed that the stolen information and images showed Ms. Andersen’s downloading and distributing over 1,000 audio files. The record companies falsely claimed that Ms. Anderson owed hundreds of thousands of dollars in an attempt to coerce and extort payment from her.

63. The record companies directed its agents to unlawfully break into private computers and engage in extreme acts of unlawful coercion, extortion, fraud, and other criminal conduct.

64. The record companies and their agents stood to financially benefit from these deceptive and unlawful acts. Proceeds from these activities are used to fund the operation of the record companies’ continued public threat campaigns.

65. These unlawful activities were not isolated. The record companies have repeated these unlawful and deceptive actions with many other victims throughout the United States.

hubruja op Woensdag 6 Juni 2007 13:02

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mag proberen de juridische kosten op de RIAA te verhalen.


Mag proberen?????????

De rechter moet dat gewoon toekennen + schadevergoeding wegens smaad.

Henk de Boer op Woensdag 6 Juni 2007 20:34

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De wijze waarop de RIAA opereert laat zich inderdaad nog het best omschrijven als zijnde geinspireerd door het mafia-model. Interessante lectuur op recordingindust...e.blogspot.com/ met een goed doortimmerde uitleg van deze en andere cases.


Ajajong op Donderdag 7 Juni 2007 08:21

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Zo, dat is eindelijk eens goed nieuws. Nu hoop ik wel dat een rechter de RIAA tot het betalen van smartegeld veroordeeld, en wel van een dergelijk bedrag dat ze het uit hun botte harsens laten om dit soort mensen die toch al genoeg ellende in het leven kennen nog aan te pakken. De RIAA is voor mij het synoniem van leugen list en legale diefstal. Geen club die opkomt voor de belangen van artiestenenz, maar alleen aan huneigen zakkenvullerij denkt.

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